I don’t think that’s a tracer. I think that’s a bullet being killed by (magic) fire.
Normally I suppose it wouldn’t be very useful to turn a metal bullet into molten metal that’s still flying at your unprotected body at the speed of a bullet. I think that’d work kind of like a hollow point, and therefore do more damage against flesh.
But since the man apparently survived an explosion, I guess he might be invulnerable to things pertaining to fire, and therefore setting the bullet on fire could make him immune to it not because the metal isn’t there, but because it’s burning. Then again, as far as I know, explosions aren’t primarily ‘fire’, but rather concussive force. Which is why you can apparently blow out a fire by using dynamite. So I don’t know exactly which rule just kept him from being as dead as his horse.
Ahh. I didn’t consider that he’d be able to vaporize the bullet. So I had to look around some to see just how hot that would make his fire, compared to regular fires. And I found this answer on Yahoo which seems to say that fire which is hot enough to vaporize lead would be “dazzling” white. At least when it is carbon particles emitting the light. Don’t know if that also applies to lead particles.
Even without it being vaporized, liquid lead would be less dangerous than solid lead. More likely to splatter than penetrate leaving ole John Henry to deal with the heat…
A second shooter! Damn, Mr. John Henry Hunter sure is a popular fella…It is very difficult to travel and play when you have a bounty on your head..Good explosion, but the poor horsey…poor, poor horsey…
Hmmm, so she isn’t as emotional towards diamond as he thought. She did try to shot the wagon, allthough he did prevent her bullet from hitting it. Second shooter or not (and maybe just fired two bullets with a fire-rate Mr. Hunter had not predicted?),
TO NIGHT YOU TASTE HORSE-FLESH Yeah, ok, that one was tasteless.
Anyway, I am beginning to wonder who is the villain here. I mean at the last page you have a clear reversal of facial expressions in the flashback panels. makes you wonder… she doesn’t look to nice a person in these.
And sorry for any spelling, gammar or context errors. English ain’t my mother tongue, and I just woke up.
Your English more than gets the point across, which is more than I can say for my storytelling on this page. /facepalm
You got it, though: there wasn’t meant to be any second shooter; Vane just pulled the muzzle over to fire at Hunter rather than the wagon, hoping he’d be too distracted dealing with bullet #1 to react to bullet #2.
I’d hoped it was obvious bullet #2 was also Vane’s based purely on same report/same basic trajectory, but my paneling on this one was kind of a miss.
And oooooh, I wish I could confirm or deny your speculations!
I think people are just treading a little too much into it. Even before I started reading the comments, I thought it was fairly clear that Vane fired twice, and Hunter was only able to stop one bullet.
I echo Wizard. I had no trouble figuring it either. I think what confused some people was the bullet between her and his panels looks to be at a different angle than the ones in panel 4 and 5, but they didn’t take into account the change in perspective. Or maybe it was that the second KRACK didn’t have a definate attribution. Speaking of KRACKs, does her springtech rifle have a slower muzzle velocity than a standard one? Just curious. My understanding is that generally speaking a bullet travels faster than its sound, so he wouldn’t have heard them being fired until after they hit. The muzzle flash is plenty obvious in any case, so I don’t want to overthink this too much. I do find it amusing that he’s apparently watching the bullet pass by in panel 5. (Reminds me a little of bullet-time in Matrix; cinematic!) Love it!
For the record, the fact that all of the flowers lit up in the explosion is really well thought out. Not to mention I’m in love with your art style in general.
Found the comic recently but haven’t had the time to comment. Love the art and story, especially all the flash backs and overlays with them. and with what JefLebowski said, I’m not all to sure who is the bad one here, could be there is neither a good or bad: one out for revenge (or whatever drives her) and the other doing what he does, I don’t really think we’ve seen him kill anyone yet, just injure and possible maim.
Everyone saying that there was two shooters kinda confused me a bit, from the start I assumed that it was just Vane with a quick finger. I can see where the paneling might have confused but really liked the way it is, with the actions in frames and the big explosion being the main background.
How could detonate the dynamite? bullets shooted are VERY heated, but aren’t enough to start an explosion. especially if you shoot to wood instead of steel, so there are no chance she could have produced a spark…but again, you can forgive that using the “Rule of Cool”. Anyway, even if i feel sorry for diamond, killing it was her best move. now he can’t escape. the two bullet thing was also a BRILLIANT move. when someone can do that fire thing, is very important to use tricks like that and.
I’m not sure if it would work, but the explosive power in dynamite comes from nitroglycerin which is extremely unstable, as in if you drop it it explodes on its own. It is stabilized a bit with filler like sawdust, but it’s possible the kinetic energy from a bullet could easily set it off. Also the dynamite made back then was very temperamental and not nearly as safe and stable as the kind we have in present times.
And while I really don’t want to argue about plausibility in an essentially fluffy, mostly fantasy-driven comic, Mark and Lawrence probably having bought the stuff discounted somewhere way out east factors in here, too. The older the stuff is the more nitroglycerin’s sweated out of it and the less stable it is, which is why Lawrence called their whole “let’s haul this west in a buckboard and sell it” plan “volatile.”
This was a topic I did a little bit of research on 1000 years ago; I got curious after watching entirely too many Westerns. “Detonate dynamite from a distance with a bullet” is practically a trope at this point. My favorite ever instance though has to be Two Mules for Sister Sara, where injured (and inebriated) Clint Eastwood and Shirley MacLaine, in full-on buddy comedy mode, collaboratively take out a railroad bridge like this.
s**t poor diamonds also i love the look of the explosion or the flash from the gun
Thanks man, and indeed… poor Diamonds.
Folks calling him a whore a page back are gonna feel so guilty.
Trying to figure out what that 2nd tracer is above the bullet in the 4th? panel is…
I don’t think that’s a tracer. I think that’s a bullet being killed by (magic) fire.
Normally I suppose it wouldn’t be very useful to turn a metal bullet into molten metal that’s still flying at your unprotected body at the speed of a bullet. I think that’d work kind of like a hollow point, and therefore do more damage against flesh.
But since the man apparently survived an explosion, I guess he might be invulnerable to things pertaining to fire, and therefore setting the bullet on fire could make him immune to it not because the metal isn’t there, but because it’s burning. Then again, as far as I know, explosions aren’t primarily ‘fire’, but rather concussive force. Which is why you can apparently blow out a fire by using dynamite. So I don’t know exactly which rule just kept him from being as dead as his horse.
Lead vaporizes at a pretty low 3200ish° F.
Ahh. I didn’t consider that he’d be able to vaporize the bullet. So I had to look around some to see just how hot that would make his fire, compared to regular fires. And I found this answer on Yahoo which seems to say that fire which is hot enough to vaporize lead would be “dazzling” white. At least when it is carbon particles emitting the light. Don’t know if that also applies to lead particles.
Even without it being vaporized, liquid lead would be less dangerous than solid lead. More likely to splatter than penetrate leaving ole John Henry to deal with the heat…
Wait, I got it, it’s…. a second shooter! (thusly the two gun reports).
A second shooter! Damn, Mr. John Henry Hunter sure is a popular fella…It is very difficult to travel and play when you have a bounty on your head..Good explosion, but the poor horsey…poor, poor horsey…
Hmmm, so she isn’t as emotional towards diamond as he thought. She did try to shot the wagon, allthough he did prevent her bullet from hitting it.
Second shooter or not (and maybe just fired two bullets with a fire-rate Mr. Hunter had not predicted?),
TO NIGHT YOU TASTE HORSE-FLESH
Yeah, ok, that one was tasteless.
Anyway, I am beginning to wonder who is the villain here.
I mean at the last page you have a clear reversal of facial expressions in the flashback panels. makes you wonder… she doesn’t look to nice a person in these.
And sorry for any spelling, gammar or context errors. English ain’t my mother tongue, and I just woke up.
Your English more than gets the point across, which is more than I can say for my storytelling on this page. /facepalm
You got it, though: there wasn’t meant to be any second shooter; Vane just pulled the muzzle over to fire at Hunter rather than the wagon, hoping he’d be too distracted dealing with bullet #1 to react to bullet #2.
I’d hoped it was obvious bullet #2 was also Vane’s based purely on same report/same basic trajectory, but my paneling on this one was kind of a miss.
And oooooh, I wish I could confirm or deny your speculations!
I think people are just treading a little too much into it. Even before I started reading the comments, I thought it was fairly clear that Vane fired twice, and Hunter was only able to stop one bullet.
That’s reassuring. Thanks, man. 🙂
Wizard: agreed. Everyone’s a conspiracy theorist.
I echo Wizard. I had no trouble figuring it either. I think what confused some people was the bullet between her and his panels looks to be at a different angle than the ones in panel 4 and 5, but they didn’t take into account the change in perspective. Or maybe it was that the second KRACK didn’t have a definate attribution.
Speaking of KRACKs, does her springtech rifle have a slower muzzle velocity than a standard one? Just curious. My understanding is that generally speaking a bullet travels faster than its sound, so he wouldn’t have heard them being fired until after they hit. The muzzle flash is plenty obvious in any case, so I don’t want to overthink this too much. I do find it amusing that he’s apparently watching the bullet pass by in panel 5. (Reminds me a little of bullet-time in Matrix; cinematic!) Love it!
They are both villains. (Duh)
For the record, the fact that all of the flowers lit up in the explosion is really well thought out. Not to mention I’m in love with your art style in general.
Thanks so much, sir!
Gah even the use of gears for panels?!?!?! I LOVE IT
Noooooooooo, Diamond!!
I felt vaguely guilty drawing this page. And the next one! And some others.
Hmm, both of them seem to be shocked and/or sad (it’s a “o f*** no’ face expression) due to Diamonds demise.
Found the comic recently but haven’t had the time to comment. Love the art and story, especially all the flash backs and overlays with them. and with what JefLebowski said, I’m not all to sure who is the bad one here, could be there is neither a good or bad: one out for revenge (or whatever drives her) and the other doing what he does, I don’t really think we’ve seen him kill anyone yet, just injure and possible maim.
Everyone saying that there was two shooters kinda confused me a bit, from the start I assumed that it was just Vane with a quick finger. I can see where the paneling might have confused but really liked the way it is, with the actions in frames and the big explosion being the main background.
Glad I found the comic ^^
Glad you found it, too, and thanks for all the kind words.
How could detonate the dynamite? bullets shooted are VERY heated, but aren’t enough to start an explosion. especially if you shoot to wood instead of steel, so there are no chance she could have produced a spark…but again, you can forgive that using the “Rule of Cool”.
Anyway, even if i feel sorry for diamond, killing it was her best move. now he can’t escape. the two bullet thing was also a BRILLIANT move. when someone can do that fire thing, is very important to use tricks like that and.
I’m not sure if it would work, but the explosive power in dynamite comes from nitroglycerin which is extremely unstable, as in if you drop it it explodes on its own. It is stabilized a bit with filler like sawdust, but it’s possible the kinetic energy from a bullet could easily set it off. Also the dynamite made back then was very temperamental and not nearly as safe and stable as the kind we have in present times.
You got it.
And while I really don’t want to argue about plausibility in an essentially fluffy, mostly fantasy-driven comic, Mark and Lawrence probably having bought the stuff discounted somewhere way out east factors in here, too. The older the stuff is the more nitroglycerin’s sweated out of it and the less stable it is, which is why Lawrence called their whole “let’s haul this west in a buckboard and sell it” plan “volatile.”
This was a topic I did a little bit of research on 1000 years ago; I got curious after watching entirely too many Westerns. “Detonate dynamite from a distance with a bullet” is practically a trope at this point. My favorite ever instance though has to be Two Mules for Sister Sara, where injured (and inebriated) Clint Eastwood and Shirley MacLaine, in full-on buddy comedy mode, collaboratively take out a railroad bridge like this.
GASP!!!! poor diamond!!!!! :O I always die a little inside when an animal in a comic/film/real life gets hurt or killed :’S
Ohhhh… Erin…. You are a horse killer!!! 🙁
Thats alot of dynamite everyone within 100yrds should be dead…
and not cause of the fire
This comic is great. Your (lack of) dialogue is perfect – you are telling a great story without too much babble.
Poor Diamonds! 🙁 Oh well, he died setting up the scene for an awesome page at least 🙂
Also I really like Vane, everything from her character design to her weapons to her singlemindedness in killing Hunter just resonates with me 🙂